[Christiaan X]

Anyone who has ever read Wikisposure (www.wikisposure.com), the forum in which the Perverted Justice organization attempts to publicize boy- and girl-lovers active on the internet, can see that its format is tabloid. It has the tone of self-righteous, conservative, gossipy scandal that characterizes American tabloid papers like The National Enquirer, the Globe and the Sun. To quote ‘the other wiki,’ Wikipedia, ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloids ) “Supermarket tabloids are particularly notorious for the over-the-top sensationalizing of stories, the facts of which can often be called into question.”

The question about Wikisposure is whether it is trying to be a more-or-less realistic tabloid, like The National Enquirer, or a mostly fictitious one, like the Sun. In the Sun, says Wikipedia, “a small-print disclaimer printed beneath the masthead has warned readers to ‘suspend belief for the sake of enjoyment.’

“Sun's content (has come) to specialize in recurring stories on Bible prophecy, Nostradamus, global warming, the apocalypse, epidemics, and future war. Sun also features health articles dealing with miracle cures of diseases such as chronic pain and arthritis, as well as numerous ‘strange but true’ articles from across the country….” (from http://en.wikipedia....market_tabloid) ).

With Wikisposure, are readers supposed to believe what they read, or must they ‘suspend belief for the sake of enjoyment?’

I believe that although the Wikisposure organizers think they aspire at least to the National Enquirer standard of scandal-mongering, wanting to mix facts with horrifying-titillating moral commentary, their journalistic standards are so shoddy that they are, in fact, like the Sun – largely a work of fiction.

One of their profilees, Lucani (*http://www.wikisposure.com/Lucani), told friends that his own mother wouldn’t recognize him based on Wikisposure’s description of him. He had created a few false trails about himself in his posting on boylover sites, and Wikisposure had simply repeated these as fact. In his case, though, there was only his private say-so to contradict their representation of him.

Recently, the prolific Wikisposure writer/researcher Summerbreeze, long ago disclosed in various websites as 47-year-old Judith Hutchison Tharp of Clinton, Mississippi, has published a profile on an internetter who has also been extensively written about in conventional journalistic sources. Thus, Tharp’s Wikisposure portrayal can be directly contrasted with careful research done by trained reporters. The true standard of Wikisposure can be gauged by any critical reader.

The internetter who was profiled in this case is one of the oddest and most colorful individuals ever to appear on the worldwide web, ‘Satan666’ or ‘Azazel,’ cheekily known in the press of his native Netherlands as “the devil from Maartensdijk.” Paul Herbert Chajim Schaap, as this outspoken Satan was called in real life, was a member, possibly the only one, of a movement he called the Satanist Freedom Party. As someone who supported the atheist LeVeyan Church of Satan ( http://en.wikipedia....aVeyan_Satanism ), he found it very easy to integrate his attraction to boys into the LaVeyan philosophy of “individualism, self-indulgence, and ‘eye for an eye’ morality.” He was stridently opposed to Christianity and related religions. I was a member of boymoment.com at the same time as he was and could always count on an outraged seminar from him about the evils of Christianity whenever I wrote something on the site that had religious content. He was not personally offensive about it, though, and we ultimately each gave the other a point in the ‘reputation’ system built into that site. He always reminded me of a big shaggy dog, wild and much given to following his impulses, but also quintessentially friendly. Some members of this church became good friends with him.

It all came to an abrupt end on the evening of 4 Feb, 2009, when Schaap was murdered by a visitor to his home in Maartensdijk, the Netherlands. Schaap was already a minor public figure and the press immediately publicized his connections to Satanist movements and online pedophile forums. Thus members of the online boards rapidly became aware of his death, and many tributes and encomia were posted, along with some critical commentary. Those who thought they knew Schaap, however, soon got a surprise. The press looked into the details of his life in Maartensdijk and in previous places of residence. What they found was completely different than all the things Schaap had said about his personal life in the boylover boards online. Also, Schaap had organized his own website and in the process had told several of his recruited administrators what his real name was. The name he gave was not Paul Schaap. It was a fake real name, David something – the person I know who knew him protected him by keeping his ‘last name’ secret.

Judy Tharp, in her Wikisposure piece on Schaap (*http://www.wikisposure.com/Satan666), simply summarized the stories Schaap had given about himself on boylove boards as if they were credible.

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Satan666, aka Paul Schaap, was a pedophile from the Netherlands who was a frequent poster on the BoyMoment and BL.net forums. He was an avid blogger as well. Schaap received his justice when he was murdered in February 2009 by one of his former victims.

Schaap lived with his boyfriend and his boyfriend's two sons, proclaiming his love for the oldest boy, age 14. He also stated that he had a second YF, a 9 year old boy, who was not related to his boyfriend. Schaap's AoA was of children 9 to 18 years old. He shared that his Mother knew he was a pedophile and that she also knew about his relationship with his YF, but that they did not talk about it.

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He set up an emo themed website for one of his YFs, wherein the boy posted provocative images of himself and another friend. Captions on the images invited visitors of the site to obtain a membership in order to view further images for which one could masturbate to. Schaap knew of the child pornography and discussed it with his peers on the forums, but he did nothing to remove the images and stated that he occasionally looked at the pictures himself.

These assertions by Tharp are backed up with quotes and screen shots from Schaap himself:

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I think that I nevertheless give a satanic party somewhere in a cheap hotel with many sexy kids, free eating and drinking, hard trance and other recreation. After this fantastic night we can with the than also drunk and stoned kids go to (‘humping in bed’ emoticon) for a good (‘censored’ emoticon).

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I have for my YF a own emo-website produced, after is previous off-line had been obtained by pedo-hunters here in the Netherlands those think that I my YF with false protence in our house hidden have for its parents.
What is now the problem?
He places photograph on itself on his site, of its friends and writes what of everything and still what. From pure curiosity I look at from time to time without to join his site. He has its own privacy. But this afternoon I look again and fell almost of my chair when I saw him in very provocative poses together with his older boyfriend. He is just 14! The text under the serie photograph lay there not for: AND THERE IS MORE TO SEE! JOIN AND YOU CAN MASTURBATE.
Have left the site for what it is. We have also not yet with him spoken of his site.
We don’t know yet what we will do. I need some advice.

The problem with all this is that extensive efforts by journalists in the Netherlands to find contact between Schaap and boys has revealed that the characters Schaap described in his web postings could not have existed. The articles these journalists published are all in Dutch, but one boymoment member (also a member here) has translated a number of them and posted them on the site. I have lifted quotes from his translations.

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“I couldn’t really get what he was all about”

http://www.ad.nl/ad/...gen-rsquo.dhtml

Bit of a strange chap was the late Paul Schaap, says Marie van Hattum. Several times per week he ate a meal at her place with her family. “He was a different sort of man in his own way. I couldn’t really get what he was all about.”

Schaap was definitely single. A night-owl, always surfing on the internet. “Schaap was something else. For example he was always busy with Satan. Many rings on his fingers, armbands with creepy things on them and on the doormat by his front door was 'Welcome to Hell.' I didn’t think much about it, but it was certainly strange.”

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It comes as no surprise that the death of Schaap is the talk of the day on the village square and in the bakery. “It buzzed through the whole village,” says local historian Koos Kolenbrander. “We don’t get a murder here every day.”

Kolenbrander has lived 62 years in Maartensdijk, but a situation like this is something he can’t remember. He knew Paul Schaap. Nothing seemed to be wrong with him. “I talked to him on a few occasions. He was very closed-in and had little contact with people."

But he regularly managed to head over for a warm meal with Marie van Hattum and her husband on Village Street. Also she helped him every Thursday with the housecleaning. “That’s something I can take off my schedule for today.”

Her husband and sons also lent Schaap a hand with technical jobs. “He had two left hands and often needed help. He got along well with the men. But I never had much to talk to him about.”

She didn’t know how Schaap spent his days. A regular haunt was the sports school in Bilthoven. “He went to fitness there three times a week, because he had to lose weight. And he went for over two hours every time.”

As far as his alleged pedophilic side went, she didn’t actually notice anything much. “But once when he was at our place and saw naked women on the PC screen, he said, ‘I don’t get turned on by that, I like young boys.’ But then he immediately said that he wouldn’t do anything with them, only hug.”

A darling Schaap wasn’t, by any means. He once went before a judge because he – at his former address in Industry Way – was found hacking away with an axe on the front door of his upstairs neighbour. And was saying, so the indictment says, “f—ing bitch, I’ll get you.”

Also on Garden Lane it wasn’t all roses, say the neighbours. He had a conflict with his next door neighbour over the noise her dogs made. The same thing was a problem at his Industry Way address.

Still, he had it the way he liked it in Garden Lane, says Marie van Hattum. “He wanted to live there til the end of his life.”

Many other press articles interviewed Schaap’s neighbours as well as people who knew him at the local Sports Center. The bearded, ponytailed 52-year-old was a recluse who lived alone with the blinds drawn (apparently a rare and semi-hostile gesture in the Netherlands culture) and had no detectable contact with boys or anyone who could be described as a boyfriend. He sold Satanistic trinkets on the internet as a source of income.

His whole life described online, delightedly quoted by Judy Tharp, was purely fictional. Apparently, he wanted to give himself status with his fellow boylovers by pretending he had a rich, boy-filled life.

Now, what about Tharp’s moralistic assertion that Schaap “received his justice when he was murdered in February 2009 by one of his former victims?”

In fact, it has now been well documented that Schaap’s killer was quite likely someone’s victim, but certainly not Schaap’s. The murderer, Bart H (last names of suspected and convicted criminals are under publication ban in the Netherlands) killed Schaap as a sort of deflected revenge against a long-gone man who had abused him during his youth.

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(Bart H.) has with these words, a few days after the murder of Paul Schaap, given insight into the "great 'why?'" The reason he wanted to strangle the pedosexual. He said these words to the police.

"In a way, I haven't killed Paul Schaap, I've killed Feiko," he confessed also to his brother. As a 10-year old boy he had to do "filthy things" with a man he called "uncle." H. was never abused by Schaap himself. They had known each other for less than a year via the internet.

The contact between (H. and Schaap) was at the initiative of H. Via internet sites H. went looking for pedosexuals in order to learn more about their 'worldview.' "I wanted information and Schaap was very open. We had spoken several times and he said that he was attracted to young boys," said H. to the Utrecht court. "I wanted to help those children."

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His disclosures to the police and the investigating judge over the character of his Feb. 1 visit with Schaap form the last pieces of the puzzle. "He keep going on about sex with children. He was very proud of it. He was also enamoured with his 10-year-old neighbour boy, who he had taken photos of. I got very worked up about it," declared H.

“I felt adrenaline and I didn't hold back any more. I rushed over to him. With two arms I strangled him into unconsciousness. Then I stabbed him with a knife from the kitchen. It was pure impulse and I thought it was good. But it is the stupidest thing that I have ever done.”

No 10-year old neighbor boy was ever disclosed in the press, and it is likely that this was simply more of Schaap’s fictionalizing, along with the sex with boys he was allegedly proud of. One thing Schaap did own, according to people who worked with him on websites, was an extremely large collection of legal but titillating photographs of boys, mostly from modelling sites like the Newstar sites (e.g. *http://newstar-robbie.info/ – he claimed to one person to have been the photographer at Newstar, but there is no reason to believe this). He was also rumoured to own illegal photographs, but if so, they were never found in the intensive police forensic investigation that followed his death. He probably used his photo collection as part of his usual swagger – hiding from the world that he was a solitary and socially awkward man who had little or no contact with young people. Indeed, nearly a year after Schaap’s death, no complaints against him have ever been brought forward, though he is now famous throughout the Netherlands. There is no evidence at all that Schaap was a child abuser. He just had an active imagination and a big mouth.

So where did Tharp get the notion from that Schaap had been murdered by a former ‘victim?’ Did she just make it up? Possibly, but rumors to that effect had appeared on some Dutch ‘pedo-hunter’ websites, and Tharp may have picked the notion up from one of those sites. In any case, the most famous Dutch ‘pedo-hunter,’ Yvonne van Hertum, implied in the press that Schaap was killed as part of a settling of accounts among criminals. This seems to have been purely defamatory, since Schaap was not known to have had any criminal history or connections. In any case, though van Hertum had been fighting in the press and on the web with Schaap for years, she declined to propagate the purely opportunistic rumor that Schaap was killed by his former victim.

Now let’s look at the ethical situation of Tharp (and by extension, Perverted Justice) in relation to all this information. Tharp had collected some tasty bad-pedo copy from Schaap from boylove websites, and had also obtained a few basic facts from the legitimate press, such as Schaap’s age and place of residence. If one googles on “Paul Schaap” and “Maartensdijk,” however, all the many articles written in the Dutch press about Schaap come up even to this day. In those articles is the well researched factual contradiction of everything Tharp published under her nom-de-guerre Summerbreeze – but nonetheless, she blithely went ahead. With all the possibilities for cooperation between American and Dutch pedo-hunters, would it not have been possible for her to do basic journalistic fact-checking? Would the wealthy Perverted Justice organization not have been able to provide her with translations of the articles? The answer to both questions is “of course.” The problem is, I believe, that factuality is not a priority with Tharp or Perverted Justice. What they are looking for is scandal-mongering juiciness, which gives them polemical impact in their war against the pedos. They don’t care if they have credibility, because they are sure that lowly pedos will always have less credibility than they have. So truth doesn’t matter. Readers may ‘suspend belief for the sake of [vindictive or self-righteous] enjoyment’ when they read Wikisposure.

Who is Tharp, then, and what has induced her to buy into this heedless, reality-ignoring crusade?

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Judith Hutchison Tharp, according to her official Perverted-Justice myspace (*http://www.myspace.com/summerbreeze_pj) and her semi-private Facebook (*http://www.facebook.com/judy.tharp) is a 47 year old single (surname changes suggest marriage and divorce) mother of one adult daughter and two younger sons. She lives in Clinton, Hinds County, Mississippi, near Jackson, the major center where her daughter Angie Tharp attends college. (The names of the two minor sons BT and CT will not be given here). She is a fervent Republican and anti-abortionist, and supports the youth ministry of her local First United Methodist Church of Clinton. She also supports organizations for the deaf, and in fact daughter Angie is a graduate of the Mississippi School for the Deaf, where she obtained high marks. Most prominently, though, Judy is a football fan, and her online shouts of support for the Mississippi State University Bulldogs – “Go Bulldogs” and “Go Dawgs” – have appeared on numerous web pages.

She makes no public claim to having been a victim of child abuse herself, but she does claim on her myspace to have known someone who tried to arrange sex with children: “No one likes to hear that someone they liked, or maybe even loved, has tried to meet a child for sexual purposes. I know, because I have been in their shoes. I am sympathetic to that feeling of hurt, helplessness, anger, frustration, and digust. I've - been - there.”

She gets full marks from daughter Angie as a ‘great mom’ and also seems to get on well with Angie’s Aunt Sharon (Wooten or Loden; http://www.myspace.com/sharroninms ), in Mathiston, MS, who is a highly regarded organizer of surrogate mothers via her organization Earthly Angels, and has also served as a surrogate herself. Sharon or Sharron (both spellings occur) is also a fervent Christian and supporter of many of the same causes as Judy supports.

It isn’t clear why the deeply rooted Christian connections in this loving family don’t slow Tharp down when she is faced with the choice of carefully telling the truth about another human being or simply reproducing or inventing fictions. My take on this is that Wikisposure, like football, is something of a team sport, where an enthusiastic team gets together to play with blind partisanship. The latest blog on Tharp’s myspace is titled “PJ Hits 500, Wikisposure kickin' butt!” referring to the 500 entrapment-based convictions Perverted Justice have obtained where their online workers posed as 12-year-old girls (mostly) to lure men into attempted seductions. “That's right, 500 CONVICTIONS” crows Tharp, “not arrests, CONVICTIONS! Congrats to all of the PJ Contributors, Verifiers, Admins, Research Personnel, and Law Enforcement for all of your hard work! I can hardly wait until we hit 1000!

And to top it all off, Wikisposure assisted in busting up the largest pedo website in the WORLD in November, aiding in the arrests of some major players in a child pornography ring. Yes. we DO RULE!”

Tharp doesn’t care that the “largest pedo website” she aided in “busting up,” boylover.net, was a completely legal one, or that any child pornography exchange involved was purely peripheral involving a few isolated people out of thousands of members. What is important is that “WE RULE.” The team has won another match. Pedophiles are simply the Gators (rival football team) of the internet. Tharp’s cheers and gloats of glory on behalf of Perverted Justice are the echo of her “Hot damn my Dawgs pulled out the Liberty Bowl VICTORY!!!! WHOO HOOOOOOOO!!!!” She is a person with partisan aggression to burn, and she has found two teams she can holler for. What’s important is not adhering to the truth or doing justice to people’s lives – instead, the goal is to kick butt. Senseless partisanship has overridden Tharp’s Christian scruples. If a man and a boy are having a wonderful non-sexual relationship and the man is a pedophile, however celibate he may be, she simply wants to punt him through the goalposts with her foot and then grab the boy in her sweaty arms and run him down in the end zone where the police are waiting, so that she can do her victory dance while he sits stunned at the loss of his friend who was always good to him. Woo-hooo!

But perhaps I have it all wrong. Maybe Wikisposure aspires to integrity even though it sometimes falls short. We shall see. Have a look at Paul Schaap’s exposé there now and see if it’s revised to conform with the known facts in a few weeks’ or months’ time. We know Perverted Justice reads the public portions of all these boylove sites routinely. They will soon see this article. Then we will see if Tharp is a Christian or just another fist-waving sports mom, and whether Wikisposure is a mainstream tabloid or just a scandal-wallowing supermarket emotion-rag banging out one lurid semi-fiction after another.

[Jeramia]

If your point of writing posts like these is to get the people from PJ to see them then you should post them at a more public BL board. BC is the best place for something like that. Heck if you wanted you could find or something a place to collect all your essays about specific antis.

[Christiaan X]

Thanks, J, a brief notice was placed in BC but this board is the only one I fully understand the legal situation of with respect to such essays. I'm not planning an extended series on the Perverted Justice personnel.

[Jeramia]

You should.

[Christiaan X]

I think you'll approve of my next task. (TBA)

[Robert]

I consider myself pretty much retired from the online life, but I have to speak up about this topic. I think that Ms. Tharp and her editors either have unbelievably poor judgment or else are intentionally cruel. The main bone I have to pick with them I have mentioned a few other times, but I have never named names. I think enough time has gone by that I can do that. I was infuriated by their cruel and unjustifiable page on {identifiers removed - CX}. For a long time people protected him by not mentioning this page, because photos on the page might have made him identifiable, but he was a teenager then. He has now grown up, and I don’t think he could be recognized on the basis of anything in the wikisposure article any longer.

{Robert, it's a close call, but some people might still know him by that old username, and he might not want that connected with the info below. I am sure the wiki people, especially the author Judy Tharp herself, will recognize who you're talking about - CX}

Summerbreeze – and I am glad that we know who this is at last – wrote him up even though she knew he was a teenager (yes, he had turned 18, but big deal) and even though he clearly stated in his online postings that he would never consider having sex with an underage boy. He also said that he hated child porn and told everyone why. He had had a mother who became a cocaine addict, and she had sold him as a prostitute and as a forced child porn object during his preteen years. Eventually he passed into the ‘care’ of a relative who was also in on this and continued to exploit him for child porn. He was so traumatized by this history that he had post-traumatic shock syndrome and dissociative identity disorder (DID) – avoidance of his real-life nightmares as a child had left him with multiple personalities. Generally he was a stable personality and the DID had little practical impact. The main hazard that these conditions posed in normal life was that if he saw, in shops, products resembling things that had been used to tie him up or confine him as a child, he could have nearly-immobilizing panic attacks that would make him have to leave the area and spend some time recovering.

In spite of all this, since he was intelligent, he had managed to pull his life together and become a successful university student. He had an online boyfriend somewhat older than himself, though the two of them lived hundreds of miles from each other. This all changed after Ms. Tharp wikisposed him. He found this extremely distressing, even though as far as I know, no one in his personal life ever became aware of the exposure. It was a direct attack on his personality. Statements in the Wikisposure implied that he was dangerous and somehow contributory to future child abuse simply because he associated with other conscientious people who shared his own sexual orientation:

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He often discusses his poor family life and his lack of a role model as a child. A--- says that he would like to be the "Father Figure" to a boy, since he had none in his life while growing up, but sends a mixed message when discussing his sexual attractions to young boys…. Sadly though, he has not disassociated himself from the world of pedophiles, as he is a member of several pedo sites across the internet, wherein he actively posts of his attraction to little boys…

The article also ended with a direct threat:

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The investigation into this individual is ongoing. We will update this article with new information once it becomes available and has been confirmed.

Someone I know had him on their instant messenger and one night he came on and asked if the person could stay on and keep talking to him for awhile. The person asked him what was going on, because there was something unusual about the request. Eventually he admitted he had taken an overdose of sleeping pills and didn’t want to be alone while he was dying. His contact had no idea what his real name was or where he was, but he did know one other online person who might have an idea. Indeed that person did have enough information, not to identify him directly, but to allow health authorities to track him down and interrupt his suicide attempt.

After that, he was no longer fit to attend school for awhile and spent some time in extreme poverty, where as the final humiliation – and Ms. Summerbreeze should be very proud of herself for this – he was sometimes forced to sell himself sexually again in order to eat. Thank you, Wikisposure, for this. Can you imagine, with his background, what that must have been like? It is possibly the most detestable thing I have ever run into. Summerbreeze actually managed to drag little A--- out of school and turn him back into an object of sodomy one more time. The mom from hell, back from the dead. What did she think was going to happen to him when such an article came out on him? It is an age-old question, asked about concentration camp guards: how do people justify to themselves the casual destruction of other peoples’ lives, people who have done no wrong? Young, vulnerable people who have done no wrong. What was she thinking?

I am happy to say that at last report he has again pulled his life together and is on the up and up.

Evil cannot win.

By the way, if you are looking these things up on wikisposure, bear in mind that their ‘StatCounter’ tracker may record your I.P. address.

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“StatCounter offers its members the chance to grow and improve their online businesses by providing a free service which allows members to monitor the number of hits to their website; the geographical location of visitors; the various pages a visitor views and keywords used to find the site. The Company was established by 25-year-old (Aodhan) Cullen when he was only 16. This year the firm reached a major milestone when it surpassed two million members globally. It currently monitors three million websites and tracks over 10 billion pageloads per month.”

(*http://www.techcentral.ie/article.aspx?id=12820 ). You can detect and block it with the free Ghostery add-on for Firefox. This also allows you to block many other trackers and counters that want to keep tabs on your browsing.

For computer people – Wikisposure apparently once tried to block Tor servers, a lost cause because they routinely change IP address. Because of that, your Tor may occasionally get a blank page. Just change identities in your Vidalia window once or twice and you will get in.

[Socrates]

Riveting read. Thanks for compiling, CX and contributing, R.

[qwerty]

Hearing of the injustice makes my stomach hurt... literally.

Not trying to cause controversy; just genuinely curious:

Surely wikisposure and PJ have contributed to the convictions of actual child sexual abusers, right?

[Christiaan X]

qwerty, on 25 January 2010 - 09:49 PM, said:

Hearing of the injustice makes my stomach hurt... literally.

Not trying to cause controversy; just genuinely curious:

Surely wikisposure and PJ have contributed to the convictions of actual child sexual abusers, right?

Certainly. For example, they played some sort of role - or so they claim - in the arrest of Jon Schillaci, username 'Dylan Thomas,' ( http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Molester+featured+on+'Ten+Most+Wanted'+for+NH+assault+captured&articleId=7b26357e-9d5d-42c3-977f-9e8f26756ba3 ). This person famously got taken in by a family who trusted him even though he had just been in prison for sexual assault involving two 11-year-old boys. Once ensconced in the family’s home, he then got persuasive-aggressive ( http://www.cjat.org/...hp?showtopic=60 ) with their 5-year-old son. After being caught, he fled to Mexico and was in hiding there for around eight years. PJ or some of their colleagues appear to have infiltrated his contact network to help trace him. So yes, they were dealing with someone I would rate as an abuser there.

About the mainstay of PJ’s enterprise, their fishing for men who approach teens online, here is what Wikipedia says:

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Perverted-Justice functions by supporting volunteers who act as bait in chat rooms where children and minors can typically be found. The volunteers' public profiles have youthful-sounding usernames, young ages, and pictures of children. The administrators of the site say they do not initiate online contact with the users, and refuse to act on tips from the public as a result. If a user starts chatting to the volunteer and turns the conversation to sex, the volunteer responds positively and encourages them to divulge personal details, particularly a telephone number, ostensibly needed to verify their identity so that a meeting can be arranged.

In the past, around this point the chatlog and details would be published on the site. Volunteers on the site's forums would then engage in "follow-up", attempting to identify and notify family members, employers, and neighbors. However, in December 2003, the organization set up its "Information First" program, in which interested police departments could contact Perverted-Justice, and any "busts" made within that department's jurisdiction would be sent straight to them without being posted to the website

I am a little skeptical of this combine-harvesting (500 convictions and counting) of the girl-curious for a couple of reasons. One is that in their write-ups, PJ is always enthusing about the big numbers of men they can call out for a meeting with a fictitious young girl, to the point where they can virtually have a line-up of males for one of their honeypots. I have never heard of anything corresponding to that in the lives of real young girls who hang out on the internet. Yes, occasionally a girl may need to tell an overly-forward older guy to get lost or back off, but the young teen girls I know are perfectly able and willing to do that, and not in gentle language. Basically, though I know that PJ thinks they are targeting a population of guys who might well be hitting on or even raping young teen girls offline as well (something many PJ volunteers have experienced personally), I really wonder if they aren't getting a mostly different, non-target population of opportunistic heterosexuals who could just as easily be deterred, in many cases, by being told to screw off once or twice.

Anyone who has ever looked into the topic of semiotics knows that there are plenty of ways a certain message can be sent using pictures and symbols rather than words. The question is, how do the PJ volunteers avoid spending thousands of hours talking to friendly guys about the weather, pop music stars, and how school is going? I have never been in a PJ chat room (or any other chat room) but the laws of probability say that if they are racking up so many takers for their coy non-seductions, they have to be doing something to get their message across. They are an efficient organization and don’t want to waste time any more than any other organization does. I would love to see a couple of their user profiles or whatever they use to make their primary introduction, just to see what they are doing to cut down the inefficiency of looking totally ordinary and unapproachable. I reckon there has to be a ‘come get me’ signal there someplace. Any volunteer who is just sitting there in idle chat action with no hope of getting a seductor on the line is going to think of some way to reduce the tedium and get some action going. I suspect the whole organization has evolved a good working Venus’s flytrap approach without explicitly breaking the rules against entrapment.

They may just use the semiotics of the chat rooms they frequent, looking for chat environments that have heavy overtones of the mating, dating and fellating game. Then perhaps they set themselves up as lambs in the wolf herd.

Anyways, is it grossly perverse that an older male would get his hopes up about a 13-year old girl who seemed to respond to a tentative come-on? The PJ staff would all adamantly agree that it was, but I find it hard be so condemnatory. It was only a short time ago in human history when life was short and the reproductive age really did begin when reproductive potential began. To make a long story short, all of biological evolution is pitched towards preferring newer gametes (sexually reproductive cells) to older, and even humans are affected by these crude biological factors. Culturally, we are very sophisticated now, and we get an education, and we no longer think that young teens have the mental or cultural wherewithal to reproduce. In hunter-gatherer cultures, such a layer of extended childhood rarely existed. The traditional age of earliest permissible marriage in Judeo-Christian societies was 12 or 13 for many centuries, even though people often held off until the mid to late teens. No social fury was set in motion when William Shakespeare wrote a play, Romeo and Juliet, about a 13 year old girl who was hot-hot-hot to be married forever to an older boy of unstated age. Meanwhile, the perfection of Juliet’s age group, combining innocence and reproductive capacity, was codified by classical Spanish painters. A current art exhibition at the National Gallery in London, England -- THE SACRED MADE REAL, SPANISH PAINTING & SCULPTURE 1600–1700 -- contains the following paragraph in its exhibition guide:

Quote

Sculptors and painters such as Montañés and
Pacheco worked together in establishing an
orthodox image of the Virgin. Artists took as their
chief source the description found in the Book of
Revelation of ‘a woman clothed with the sun, and
the moon under her feet, and upon her head a
crown of twelve stars… ’ (Revelations 12: 1–2). And
Pacheco, in his treatise, further stipulated that the
Virgin should be represented as a beautiful young
girl of 12 or 13 with flowing golden hair, serious
eyes and a perfect nose and mouth.

(http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/upload/pdf/exhibtion_guide.pdf )

And indeed, the paintings of the Virgin in that exhibition are such as would drive PJ's client population wild. Look at the one by Diego Velázquez:


http://www.mezzo-mondo.com/arts/mm/velazquez/VED002_L.jpg

* http://www.mezzo-mon...uez/VED002.html

Meanwhile, up in Canada, there is a successful play being staged by a young Inuit actress, Abbie Ootova (or Ootava) (http://www.paherald.sk.ca/Arts/Entertainment/2010-01-01/article-352581/Inuk-actress-Abbie-Ootova-makes-her-national-stage-debut-in-%26amp%3Bquot%3BNight%26amp%3Bquot%3B/1 ) who is 16 and pregnant, and who said on the online television news that she was pleased she held off so long, because her sisters had all become pregnant at 13. When the interviewers solicited some sort of shocked or critical comment from her, she just shrugged and said she wasn't against it because 'it's our culture,' but stressed she was personally glad to have waited awhile. And you can well imagine that just four or five generations ago in the arctic, lifespans would indeed have been short, and winters long and tedious, and very likely most women who could be pregnant would be. Inuit traditionally were open about sex in a way that would now seem to be a criticism if it were described. Yet this was not a universally suffering and wholly self-abused culture. It was a proud and fully functional culture.

In short, I think that the population that PJ is harvesting into with their girl honeypots is not really perverts or creeps, but rather, heterosexual males. They can therefore arrest indefinite numbers. Not that every heterosexual male will do this, but many, in a moment of depression or rash adventurousness, could become so careless and risk-taking that they would play with getting a rise from a little virgin mary out there. And if they started getting heated-up responses, who knows how many could decide to take a chance? Meanwhile, every one of them would exclaim with a huff in public that that was awful and they would never do such a thing, just as the stalwarts in your personal life and mine would do. My bet, though, would be that fewer than one in 20 of PJ’s convicts would be anyone who would hit on a young girl under any other circumstance, and almost all of them would be scared off good by a 'get lost you old fucker.' Think about it. What happens to heterosexual males when they are put into prison? They pretty much all start getting interested in sex with younger guys. Do this mean they are homosexual? No! They are horny and opportunistic. They are flexible. Much more flexible than they would ever admit to anyone. Their biology tells them that Juliet is inexpressibly erotic, and how well they do in turning that impulse aside is purely dependent on their cultural sophistication. PJ has found itself a little artificial goldmine, spinning straw into conviction gold, spinning slightly out-of-step heteros into gloriously jailable social ogres, good for publicity, bringing in roars of support and plenty of dollars.

There but for the grace of God goes 75% of the males you've ever laid eyes on.

There's a same-sex version too. Look at the case of David Dewees (http://www.cjat.org/ipb/index.php?showtopic=61 ). It seems he was a persuasive (http://www.cjat.org/ipb/index.php?showtopic=60 ) at a very muted level, hitting on straight boys to talk about their sexual adventures with girls. Now, there was a man who just needed someone to tell him, "David, this is inappropriate and you're being rude by digging into those boys' privacy like that" rather than being charged as a criminal and driven to suicide. What good does it do to suck such people up into the blades of the PJ combine-harvester or machines like it? It is really very, very creepy, this grotesque over-reaction to what is basically a breach of politeness.

So, yes, PJ/Wikisposure brings you a heady mix of real sexual aggressors on children, career abusers, luckless one-timers who got sucked in, people whose manners need working on, normal straight boys with their judgment antennae out of order, and completely innocent people who say they have an attraction to minors, even though they may be completely opposed to acting on it.

It is a messy military operation by any comparison. I suspect the majority of their casualties are civilians rather than sexual terrorists.

[adamjohn]

I don't want to say too much about PJ other than to say that they are the richest source of pro-paedophilia views on the web. I wrote to them advising them that if they find these views offensive they ought not to repeat them. I don't like the British National Party very much but I don't need to set up a web site "outing" their memebers and repeating their vile views.